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"Europe dumps 300,000 UK-owned .EU domains into the Brexit bin"

Not only a comment on the stupidity of Brexit, but why we also should not be building our decentralized systems upon the quicksand-foundation of DNS theregister.co.uk/2018/03/29/e

@cwebber Throwing a middle finger up at 300,000 innocent domain owners is not going to do good things for trust in your TLD.

@varx @cwebber to be fair the 17 million folk in UK who put the middle finger (or perhaps more precisely the V-sign) at the other half of the voting population are just as much to blame.

It is made fairly clear in the .eu registration commisions any domain owner has to be based in the EU (other countries have even more restrictive rules about domain ownership or even getting VOIP phone numbers)

Leaving the EU has consequences, not all of which are positive..

@vfrmedia @cwebber There's precedent for not getting rid of domains that would no longer be registrable by their owners. I guess the Soviet Union example *is* a bit different, though, in that there's an extant registration authority who can make whatever policy decisions they want...

@varx @cwebber also the wider point about DNS is important too, especially with global trends towards nationalism/populism.

It unnerves me someitmes when I see young startup companies/indieweb sites with mildly edgy/controversial content pick "cool" domains which belong to countries which are moving to more conservative/nationalist politics, even if registrars currently say "business is business" and hold their noses, its not guaranteed that they will continually do so..

@vfrmedia @cwebber Tell me about it. I keep waiting for Libya to take over bit.ly or something.

I'm hosting a sandstorm instance at sandy.parsni.ps but I mean really who knows what Palestine may or may not decide to care about in N years.

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@varx @vfrmedia It's not anything specific about countries though, if you get a TLD operated by a "regular" commercial entity (i.e. gtlds) you're at their mercy just as much (in fact many industry-related TLDs place just as strict registration requirements as those strict ccTLDs).

The only true solutions would be completely new systems like namecoin, but those bring their own set of problems with them

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@elomatreb @varx

true, I'm equally wary about these "new/cool" domains - not so much of fear of censorship but there was at least one where whatever agreements made it work with DNS fell over and it took several days to resolve with everyone involved blaming one another (I forget the exact domain but there were several toots to an article about it and one big service affected had to add a traditional .com as a backup..)

@elomatreb @vfrmedia @varx ... problems like a totally pointless blockchain. :) Decentralized DNS was tried and failed long before namecoin.

@tw @varx @vfrmedia Indeed, although I was more thinking about the concept in general, which still has the problem that not all moderation/control is evil censorship