@cute_weeds same would apply to LGB people tho? There Is No Point.

@Tom @cute_weeds The "point" is basically "Accept the scraps we gave you and stop making me have to think about my privilege."

So yeah, they need to STFU.

Lol, cis *gay* men. But cis guy men includes that anyway, so...

@cute_weeds this smacks a lot of the people who go "well it's better for women in the US than in some other places"

it's derailing and like a pointless thing "better" doesn't mean "right" or "good"

@Murkrow @cute_weeds my uncle is a very affluent city-dwelling 50-something gay man. last time i saw him he asked me what LGBT was

@envgen @cute_weeds it's a sandwich with lettuce, guac, bacon and tomato. Duh.

@Murkrow @envgen that actually sounds really good

@Murkrow @cute_weeds I am so sick of playing misery olympics

I am a queer cis mostly-abled-but-not-enough-for-academia woman in stem and suffer a different set of microaggressions and prejudices than white cis men in an openly homosexual relationship. Can we just not try to pretend that life is actually very fair for anyone who isn't white, cis, male, abled, and straight? And that the work to be done to remedy the remaining disparities looks VERY different depending on which of those you're talking about?

@Maenad @cute_weeds nobody was playing misery olympics?

Cillia said she was tired of people who have experienced A but not B telling her about B when she is the one who has experienced B. I replied that the people who have only experienced A often feel that having experienced A makes them experts on B, C, D, E and F despite, as you say, them looking very different. I never said that E was harder than A, or that B, C and F combined were harder than A, or that A was as easy as no A... just that people assume experiencing A makes them an expert on other letters as well.

@Murkrow @Maenad I might be reading Maggie's comment wrong, but I thought she was basically saying what I think you're saying: That the prejudices she encounters are not the same as the ones cis gay men encounter, and that while solidarity is important in a world that sucks for non-cishet non-males, it's worthless if it doesn't also embrace intersectionality.

Apologies if I've misinterpreted what either of you said!

@cute_weeds @Murkrow nope, you pretty much understand correctly

I think people who suffer a certain set of discrimination have a hard time acknowledging that they are also privileged.

@Maenad @cute_weeds whoops, that was me grabbing the wrong end of the stick there |D glad that's sorted out now!

@Murkrow @cute_weeds to be fair, I tagged into a rant thread at an odd place without making it clear who I was ranting at

but it wasn't you :)

@Murkrow @cute_weeds i can handle 3min with Earplugs